What about the boss?

Someone posted this morning a question about whether to get their boss something to acknowledge his loss after the stillbirthof his child. Co-workers were telling her it was inappropriate, but she wanted to hear from people who have "been there". (The post appears under the heading of "It's the small things that count") Below is my response to her, but I am wondering what others think? Thanks


I always want to stress that everyone is different in how they react to their grief, so what I am saying is how I felt/feel, but obviously I am not your boss.

My gut reaction to your question is that your co-workers are well intentioned, but I would not agree with them. One of the things I hear repeatedly from fathers is stories about going back to work and having everyone act like nothing happened. Not only does no one ask how they are doing, some people avoid them because of their discomfort with the situation, and sometimes rooms even go silent when they walk into a meeting or the lunch room.

I personally think that the real question is WHAT you might get him to acknowledge that you are thinking about him. I own my own company and my employees were wonderful about supporting me. One person even came to the house to visit, and I remember how thoughtful that gesture was and how much it meant to both my wife and I. The others in the office did not buy anything other than a card, but again the gesture meant the world to me and certainly let my wife know they were thinking of her as well.

Depending on a lot of different factors, including what your relationship is normally like with your boss, I would definitely say a card would be appropriate -- and I hope that others in the company may have done something similar. Also, most moms AND dads I know wish that people would use the baby's name when speaking to them about their loss, since one of the biggest fears as a parent is that everyone will forget your child ever existed or that they were not "real" to others-- or at least mattered. So a personalized inexpensive gift with the baby's name would be very nice, in my opinion.

Finally, I would say in the card (or the card that accompanies the gift) that you were not sure what you should do to acknowledge his loss, but that you felt terrible and just really wanted to do something... basically the same thing you said in your post. Honest expressions of feelings are what most of us want or wanted at the time... your boss may be the guy who runs the company, but he is a human being with the same feelings and emotions that others experience.

63 comments:

  1. Wow, I completely agree. My DH is a logger, the site boss of several guys, and not one of them said anything to him after the loss of our twins. Every one of them knew what had happened, too. It made spending 10-12 hours a day at work those first few weeks after the loss especially difficult on him. It means the world to have our pain acknowledged, and a card is certainly appropriate.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. My name is John I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met DR EHBOS special spell caster when i went to Africa to Execute some business.He is really powerful spell caster,My wife divorce me with no reason for almost 4 years and i tried all i could to have her back cos i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 5 years with no kid and she woke up one morning and she told me she's going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a divorce letter and she packed all her loads from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 4 years...So when i told the DR EHBOS spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution...so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she's with a man and that man is the reason why she left me. DR EHBOS said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back but i never believe all this...he told me i will see a positive result within 3 days..3 days later,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream because i never believe this will work out after trying so many spell casters and there is no solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant a month later..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kid coming .. DR EHBOS has really changed my life and i will forever thankful to him..he has helped many friends too with similar problem too and they are happy and thankful to him..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out..you can reach him to his personal email drehbos@gmail.com
      drehbos@gamil.com or add him on WhatsApp +2348133505254

      Delete
  2. I agree - a card is wonderful to receive to acknowledge one's loss.

    One thing I've heard from my husband is that co-workers might ask how I was doing, but they didn't always ask how HE was doing. So along with a card, if possible/feels appropriate, I would encourage someone to ask how the father is doing.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Thanks everyone, so much. I wrote the original question. I was planning on getting him something like an abstract painting, but I will just do a card and give it to him around the holidays. I don't know him all that well because I'm a pretty new employee, but he's an awesome boss and I hate to think that HE thinks no one is thinking about him. We all pitched in for flowers the day we heard the news. I just want him to know that it's still on my mind.

    I really really appreciate your taking the time to post about this and those of you who commented.

    ReplyDelete
  4. I agree that it bothered me more that no one acknowledged my loss than those that made odd comments. I am not sure people realize the little bits of time someone took to ask me how I was or simply say sorry for your loss makes a difference. whether it is a card or flowers...the gift matters less that the thought that someone else took time from their day to care.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I completely agree with your response. My husbands work sent a card along with donations from everyone to help with funeral expenses and the time he took off of work. It meant a lot to us to be acknowledged and have such a thoughtful gesture come our way. To even have a co-worker ask how you are, how you're hanging in and if you need anything means a lot. We also had people show up with casseroles, which surprisingly helped since I was not in any state of function and my husband was filling my role for a while.

    ReplyDelete
  6. If it feels like a comfortable thing to do, I would also suggest adding the date of the baby's birth/loss to your calendar and remembering the date each year to the father then, too.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Thanks. I'm planning to. By that point I'll have a much longer relationship with him, so I can feel out better whether it's appropriate.

    ReplyDelete
  8. I think that when you are moved to do something for someone, it won't take long to see what they need. Pay attention, and find something tangible. I love the cards, and flowers we received, but they were eventually put away and died. My favorite gifts were plants that I can keep nuturing in my daughter's memory.

    ReplyDelete
  9. This is good advice. Thanks.

    ReplyDelete
  10. Hello I couldn't imagine loosing my child due to a death. But I do suffer from the next thing that is an angry spouse who is using my child as a leverage tool in our separation/divorce litigation. I am asking everyone to pull together to save children out there from being used as pawns in a divorce please sign my petition. Here is the link and spread the word we can make a difference in a child who is forced through a divorce.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/sophias-law

    Thank You Sincerely David Stellwag

    ReplyDelete
  11. I'm a little late in joining this conversation but I want to say that my coworkers were exceptionally kind when my baby boy died this past August. My immediate group of co-workers sent us a large bouquet of flowers and a bereavement card. And my manager sent me a lovely card and a beautiful peace plant. Just their acknowledgement of Kerian's short life was extremely helpful to me.

    I would definitely do the same thing for my boss, even if he or she was new to my working life. You don't need to gush or say too much, and just saying, "I'm so sorry," and giving a plant or flowers at least shows a kind gesture.

    I would have felt crushed if nobody said anything to me at all after Kerian died. Doing something, even if it's just simple and modest, is better than saying/doing nothing at all.

    Thanks Tim, for this wonderful blog, and for the book you published. A friend sent my husband a copy of your book and it was very helpful to my husband when our son died.

    http://rememberingkerian.blogspot.com/

    ReplyDelete
  12. This blog is great source of information which is very useful for me. Thank you very much.

    BEST LOVE POEMS FOR FATHER.

    ReplyDelete
  13. I really love the suggestion about adding the baby's birth date to your calendar. Yes, please do this! My father is the only one out of all my family and friends who sends a card to this day, 8 years on.

    As for the boss... how can such a life-changing event go unacknowledged? Yes, he is your boss. But as you say in the post in answer to this difficult question, one of the hardest things is to return to the workplace and have life go on as if nothing ever happened. It's difficult beyond imagining. But so is knowing the 'correct etiquette' - thing is, because grief is so unique to everyone, there is no finite rule. I always say, go with your heart. I really appreciate your blog, Tim, and visit it on and off (as well as link to it from mine) when I need to understand my partner's ongoing processing.

    ReplyDelete
  14. I agree with what's been said about how valuable it is to show support. When we had our third miscarriage a couple years ago, I sent a note to my immediate supervisors to say "Last time this happened I was in a mental haze for about six months. Please keep on my case if you need something from me, because I expect to have lower productivity for a while." One fellow came by my desk and we talked for about an hour. Several others simply said "I'm sorry." It was all helpful.

    I also agree with making a point to affirm that it is your boss's loss, and not just his wife's. In hindsight, I probably could have been much more irritated than I was by the "how is your wife doing" questions.

    ReplyDelete
  15. I am a mother, who lost a nine month old baby last summer. I was also the boss. A pretty good and fair one at that. When I came back to work. Nobody said a thing. Like it never happened. Like I had just come back from a vacation. It was one of the most painful things that happened after losing my son. I actually have only been back twice since then. Twice - in nine months. That's how hurtful it was. I never want to see any of them again. Don't ignore it is what I would say. It is appropriate to acknowledge another person's pain...even if it is your boss. Bosses are humans too.

    ReplyDelete
  16. A card is defiantly appropriate. But most of all, mentioning the child later. My coworkers were great at first, but now as two years approaches only one of them has even acknowledged the fact. We remember our children, we just want to know that you remember them, too.

    ReplyDelete
  17. Such a tough moment. But no choice but to face it.

    ReplyDelete
  18. Hi-I am not a dad but a mom. My husband and I lost our twin daughters Aubrey and Ellie a few week after they were born in 2008 so we are acquainted with grief. I read this post and wanted to address your question of WHAT do you get for someone that is appropriate after the loss of their child/infant and I wanted to make a recommendation. This question is close to my heart as I felt the well intentioned people got us the wrong gifts and even cards-although a good idea-had hurtful and/or insensitive things written in them. So I decided to create what I think is an appropriate gift for a grieving person. I started a company called Teamotions (www.teamotionstea.com). I blend tea with powerful and safe herbs called adaptogens. Adaptogens help the body cope with stress and restore physical and emotional balance to offer both physical and emotional comfort and healing in the form of a delicious tea. And when I say delicious I mean award winningly delicious. I have six teas-one for each stage of grief, and each comes in a gift box which includes a tin of loose leaf tea, a mug with infuser basket and lid, and a scoop. And each gift box is APPROPRIATE for a man or a woman-no frilly tea here-just a truly thoughtful and healing gift. There is a picture of our Seek Peace gift box on the home page of our website-it is picture #5 in the scrolling picture box and the rest of them are in the shop now section. I hope you find this information useful. If you have any questions feel free to email me at Rachel@teamotionstea.com.

    ReplyDelete
  19. Using a baby carrier is the best way to take your baby along with you everywhere, effortlessly. Carrying the baby around in your arms can often be tiring. A pram will not give your baby the feeling of being close to ergobaby you. But when you use a baby carrier, the baby is secure and in close contact with you always. The baby carriers from Ergo Baby are the leading carriers chosen by most parents around the globe. It is an instinctive parenting style where a baby is held close to the parents or caregivers in a carrier. The baby baby sling or wrap, or also known as the carrier envelope is a company that is just ergo baby carrier a fabric that is too long. On the other hand, this type of carrier is the most versatile of all and which to keep your baby in the front, ergo baby carrier sale hip or back, along with some variations in terms of positions. Thebaby carrier sale is designed to be ergonomic for both mom and baby. Place the baby's increasing weight in the natural. The freedom to follow their normal daily routine, while providing a richer environment and more desirable for their children.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. ummmm....you need to read the blog you are posting on.....this is NOT the place to be pushing a baby carrier!

      Delete
    2. ergo carrier - you insensitive money grabbing fool.

      Delete
  20. Yep silent rooms, never the mention of my Isabella's name. sorry for your loss. She wasn't my loss, she was My Daughter. One thing I discovered was I didt have a family or friends. They desert in their droves. because it's to hard for them. Thats not what any Parent wants
    Andrew

    ReplyDelete
  21. "he is a human being with the same feelings and emotions that others experience." Yes, I completely agree with this valuable suggestion. The person whoever he is has some feelings & emotion. A person should have fathers rights because he is a father also.

    ReplyDelete
  22. This has recently happened to my wife and me. get a gift. it means a lot to the family.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Yep I agree, get him a gift that acknowledges his loss and the loss of a life full of posibilites and potential. That is what I'm finding the hardest about the death of my newborn son.

    ReplyDelete
  24. I would like to join this group. My wife and I lost our Daughter Abigail 24 January 2013. She died at 35 weeks with no explanation medically. My wife gave birth to a healthy baby boy 10 March 2014 and I really love him, I still see the face of my girl when I look at him and I am hesitant to make a connection. What do I do? JD

    ReplyDelete
  25. OUR herbal medication will cure any inch of your Fibroid, OK. When take our herbal medication to cure Fibroid and any other Infertility, You must not be going out very far from Your House because it will only be making you to visit toilet in passing out the Fibroid gradually …We also specialise in providing solutions in any of this spiritual gynaecology diseases affect human existence such as:
    1 fibroid, asthma, ALL STD, Urine tract infection, sinus infection, unexplain miscarriage, fibromyalgia.
    2 weakness of man organ (Herbal cure for Weak Erection….
    3 infections of all kind (yeast infection)
    4 blockage from the fallopian tube
    5 cyst. From the ovaries,PCOS
    6 unpleasant smell from the virginal, Herbal to prevent stroke
    7 irregular menstration, menopause
    8 infertility for easy Conception.
    9.skin diseases, Toilet infection and bad body odor…….Etc..
    10.Watering sperm (low sperm count) not able to get woman pregnant.
    Simply contact the spiritualist PriestEka on (dreka14demons@gmail.com) to get his Herbal Medication to cure your disease and put yourself on a motherhood side of life..
    (No more adoption, with PriestEka your problem will solve and you will have your child with ease.
    Contact us at (dreka14demons@gmail.com) your solution home!

    ReplyDelete
  26. Great article. Keep Posting.
    Mybaby247 specialized is capturing your babies beautiful memories of the first Birthday. Our session of Birthday Photography in New Delhi, NCR and Gurgaon are enjoyable for both parents and children. For the quote of Cake-smash Photography contact us freely. Birthday Photography in Noida
    May your life be filled with love and peace with your newest arrival!

    ReplyDelete
  27. Its a amazing post for babyies online products and keep postin on it. I really enjoy your article. "online baby product store"

    ReplyDelete
  28. World's most trusted and reliable cryptocurrency exchange ethereum to paypal dollars cash or transfer it into your bank account with 0% fee. converting crypto coins into real money become so much easy (( 0:)) for you. have a good day

    ReplyDelete
  29. 2019 Hot Rainbow Baby Girl Dress
    Size: 3 month, 6 month, 12 month, 18 month, 24 month
    Fit for 1st 2nd Baby Birthday Party, Wedding and other Formal Occasions to know more follow

    our store at AliexpressHAPPYPLUS Official

    Store


    #baby #birthday #dress #party #1stbirthday #girldress

    ReplyDelete
  30. are everyone looking for ways online to get help solving their pregnancy and infertility problems when most of every native American is talking online about the help of Dr Mandaker Alamun. I checked him out when my husband who could not get me pregnant for over 9 years of marriage as a result of low sperm count became fertile and now, I am 5 months pregnant and it is this man known as Dr Mandaker who helped my husband solve his problem. My name is Alecia from ca USA. I would advise anyone and everyone who needs the help of any spell caster in love marriage,finance, job promotion,lottery spell,poker spell,golf spell,Law & Court case Spells,money spell,weigh loss spell,diabetic spell,hypertensive spell,high cholesterol spell,Trouble in marriage,Barrenness(need spiritual marriage separation),good Luck, Money Spells,it's all he does or looking for breakthrough in your political career to meet this Dr Mandaker the link to his website copy this link (witch-doctor.page4.me)His email contact witchhealing@outlook.com for He is a Reliable and trustworthy. I and my husband have gone to different hospitals having the thinking that I was at fault for not getting pregnant. But at the Federal hospital, they examined him too and his sperm count was low and unable to get a woman pregnant as a result of male infertility. It was then I sort out,thanks to Dr Mandaker.

    ReplyDelete

  31. i want to testify about a great spell caster that help me cast a spell that bring my husband back to me without any delay. I broke up with him with just little misunderstanding hoping we will get back shortly,but things was growing worse until i contacted Dr.Manbela who help me with his historical powers to bring him back, i have never believed in a spell caster until i come across him, it will be of great sin if i should go out from here without dropping the contact of this great spell caster, in case you need the help of this great spell caster you can contact him through his email: once you contact him all your problems will be over ,once again i say very big thanks to you sir for helping me to recover my husband back, and please sir keep your good work because people need your help and in their lives ,once more thank you Dr Manbela

    contact him via; Manbelaspelltemple1@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  32. HOW DR. UNEME brought back my ex lover unemespellben@gmail.com
    Am DONNA, am from UK. After been in a relationship with my Boyfriend for 1 year now and we were planning to get married soon and all of a sudden he left me for another girl. of a truth, I really love this guy and never can I imagine life without him. I further tried all my best to get him back but all my effort to get him back in my life did not work out. It was on this faithful day, I came across some Testimonies on a website about this great spell caster called (Dr. UNEME) any persons claimed that he help them to renew their relationship and bring their ex lover back, I had to contact him because he was my last hope. I contacted him through his email and he assured me that in three days time my boyfriend is going to leave the other girl and come back to me and it was a very great surprise to see my boyfriend coming back to me after three days the spell was done. I am so very happy today that he came back to me and i achieved this with the help of Dr UNEME I equally want to use this opportunity to Tell/Advice to as many who need their ex back, if you need his help you can Contact him through
    EMAIL: unemespellben@gmail.com WHATSAPP HIM @ +2348143813120


    Thank You Once Again Dr.UNEME

    ReplyDelete
  33. Hi everybody. I recently saw a testimony about chief dr lucky in a blog I visit for relationship and dating counseling problems because i had been having serious issues with my boyfriend and we had been dating for six months, he just suddenly changed, he wasn't returning my calls,he started cheating,he was hurting me in many ways i never thought possible and I just thought I should try it*maybe out of desperation of some sort*..and I contacted chief dr lucky ..At first everything felt dreamy and unbelievable, his consultations and solution was a little bit easy and strange and I was scared a little cause I heard read and heard lots of stories to of fake spell casters,scams and i never really believed in magic..I played along with a little hope and and faith and I sent some few stuffs after everything and it worked like a miracle,everything went to a while new direction,it was and is amazing...I guess it was all good faith that made me read That particular post that faithful day..I hope he could help other people too like he did me...I did a little and I got everything I wanted and wished for*my husband,my family and my life back. E-mail: Cheifdrlucky@gmail.com or contact him on whats App him +2348132777335 Website :http://chiefdrluckysolutionhome.website2.me/  

    ReplyDelete
  34. Hello I'm From Memphis Tennessee, USA I feel so joyful today because of the help Dr  Sunny has rendered to me for  getting my Husband back with his spell. I have been married for 4 years and it has been so terrible because my husband was cheating on me and was seeking for a divorce. But when i came across Dr Sunny Email, on the internet posted by a lady, i decided to get in touch with him and i explained my situation to him and then seek his help but to my greatest surprise he told me that he will help me with my case for there is no problem without a solution. Here i am celebrating because my Husband is back home and am really enjoying my marriage, what a great celebration. i will keep on testifying on the internet because Dr Sunny is truly a real spell caster. Why not contact Dr Sunny now if you are facing any challenges in your relationship life. Email solutioncentre911@gmail.com Also specialize i1) love Spell
    2) Spells divorce
    3) Spells of marriage4) Penis enlargement 5) Pregnancy problems6) Healing spell
    contact this great man if you have a problem for a lasting solution Through Email: solutioncentre911@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete

  35. Are you in financial crisis, looking for money to start your own business or to pay your bills? I got mine from Him. My blank ATM card can withdraw $ 2,000 daily. I got it from Her last week and now I have $14,000 for free. The blank ATM withdraws money from any ATM machines and there is no name on it, it is not traceable and now i have money for business and enough money for me and my family to live on . *email: int.hackers002@gmail.com

    GET YOUR BLANK ATM CREDIT CARD AT AFFORDABLE PRICE
    *He sell this cards to all our customers and interested buyers worldwide,the card has a daily withdrawal limit of $5000 and up to $50,000 spending limit in stores and unlimited on POS.*

    *email: int.hackers002@gmail.com

    *you can also call or whatsapp us Contact us today for more enlightenment
    +1(301) 329-5298

    ReplyDelete
  36. Hello Viewers. Life has been so miserable after my Husband broke up with me 2 year ago. I never thought he could hurt me just like that then i realized how much i loved him. When he ended our relationship and i had to look for options to make sure i get him back to myself because i wasn't living fine anymore. I was directed to a Babalawo known as Dr Ogbeifun by a family friend who claimed he helped her with Court case, and protection in her work to go higher than others. Then I contact with the Babalawo and i was surprised and amazed when my Husband came back to me with he knees on the floor pleading to me for forgiveness to take he back as my lover. I thought i was dreaming because all this happened just within 24 hours and it happened as the spell Doctor as said. For that wonderful encounter with this man, i took a decision on my path that i will let the world know about DR OGBEIFUN for he's able and capable to solve any problems. Get in touch with him email : ifababalawospelltemple@gmail.com
    Add him on WhatsApp: +2348050680253

    ReplyDelete



  37. INSTEAD OF GETTING A LOAN,, I GOT SOMETHING NEW
    Get $10,050 USD every week, for six months!

    See how it works
    Do you know you can hack into any ATM machine with a hacked ATM card??
    Make up you mind before applying, straight deal...
    Order for a blank ATM card now and get millions within a week!: contact us
    via email address:: besthackersworld58@gmail.com or whats-app +1(323)-723-2568

    We have specially programmed ATM cards that can be use to hack ATM
    machines, the ATM cards can be used to withdraw at the ATM or swipe, at
    stores and POS. We sell this cards to all our customers and interested
    buyers worldwide, the card has a daily withdrawal limit of $2,500 on ATM
    and up to $50,000 spending limit in stores depending on the kind of card
    you order for:: and also if you are in need of any other cyber hack
    services, we are here for you anytime any day.
    Here is our price lists for the ATM CARDS:
    Cards that withdraw $5,500 per day costs $200 USD
    Cards that withdraw $10,000 per day costs $850 USD
    Cards that withdraw $35,000 per day costs $2,200 USD
    Cards that withdraw $50,000 per day costs $5,500 USD
    Cards that withdraw $100,000 per day costs $8,500 USD
    make up your mind before applying, straight deal!!!

    The price include shipping fees and charges, order now: contact us via
    email address::besthackersworld58@gmail.com or whats-app +1(323)-723-2568

    ReplyDelete
  38. Hello, are you guys ready to make real cash??? No dulling moment anymore. No more depending on cheap check every week. Get thousands of dollars or any currency of your choice and make this life worth living for. Order for a blank ATM card now.How does it work? Our cards are loaded with a balance of $5000 to $100,000.00 with different daily withdrawal limits depending on the card you are buying and you can use the blank atm card to shop online and withdraw cash from any ATM machine closer to you.★ Is this real? Yes, as shown in the video we withdrew cash multiple times without any issues. You can do it too.★ Can I be traced? No, your withdrawal/transactions are completely anonymous.★ Can i trust this method? Yes, we have not had any issue when doing this for the past 5 years now.★ Are people using this ATM card? Absolutely, alot of people {our trusted customers) have quit their jobs to withdraw money on daily basis. ★ How do I get my card? We will ship your Blank Card /w Pin few hours after receiving clear payment through a courier service International and give you the tracking details of your card, 2-4 business day delivery service. once you receive the card you can start cashing out. ★Is this real? YES: we are 100% real and been doing this since 2015Contact us to order a working blanK ATM Card that you can use to withdraw a minimum amount of $1000 and maximum amount of $10,000 daily withdrawal limit. Online maximum purchase limit is $30,000Contact via email: officialhackingcompany@gmail.com
    visit our website: https://official-hacking-company.jimdosite.com/

    ReplyDelete
  39. Hello Am From The UK , I want to write a little testimony about the good work of doctor Oyagu who cured me from Hsv 1 and 2 for just 2 weeks with his herbal medicine, I never believe I can be normal again and have a good life like others I always regretted the day I got diagnose with the virus, I was lost of hope when my doctor told me there is no cure for it but I keep thinking and thinking about my future, if I can have kids of my own well I am so grateful for my helper who get me cured with his herbal medicine, I go online in search of anything that can help me because I can’t deal with it forever so I found this doc Oyagu email on a blog of someone who was cured by him I quickly contact him for help and explain all my pain to him, he told me not to worry about it there is cure for real, I never believe until he send me the herbal medicine when I order for it and I have it within 4 days that is how I took the medicine for 2 week and the following week I go for test just to confirm I was 100% cured from this sickness what a miracle in my life I am so happy right now, you can also get in contact with him if you have such sickness through email address oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or text him on what's app, phone number +2348101755322 or vist his website https://oyaguspellcaster.wixsite.com/oyaguherbalhome Dr Oyagu also has remedy to others disease like COLD SORES,HIV/AIDS,DIABETES.CANCER,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND MANY MORE. I oblige everyone to contact this powerful herbalist Dr Oyagu and be free from suffering.

    ReplyDelete
  40. OFFICIAL HACKING COMPANY IS LEGIT COMPANY TO GET BLANK ATM CARD.       I am sure a lot of us are still unaware of the recent development of the Blank ATM card.. An ATM card that can change your financial status within few days. With this Blank ATM card, you can withdraw between $1000-$10,000 daily from any ATM machine in the world. There is no risk of getting caught by any form of security if you followed the instructions properly. The Blank ATM card is also sophisticated due to the fact that the card has its own security making your transaction very safe and untraceable. For more info contact Mr bill with the below E-mail: officialhackingcompany@gmail.com website https://official-hacking-company.jimdosite.com/

    ReplyDelete


  41. Cool way to have financial freedom!!! Are you tired of living a poor life, here is the opportunity you have been waiting for. Get the new ATM BLANK CARD that can hack any ATM MACHINE and withdraw money from any account. You do not require anybody’s account number before you can use it. Although you and I knows that its illegal,there is no risk using it. It has SPECIAL FEATURES, that makes the machine unable to detect this very card,and its transaction can’t be traced .You can use it anywhere in the world. With this card,you can withdraw nothing less than $4,500 a day. So to get the card,reach the hackers via email address : besthackersworld58@gmail.com or whatsapp him on +1(323)-723-2568

    ReplyDelete
  42. INSTEAD OF GETTING A LOAN Check out these blank ATM cards today!!

    My name is Oliver Grey from New York. A successful business owner and father. I got one of these already programmed blank ATM cards that allows me withdraw a maximum of $5,000 daily for 30 days. I am so happy about these cards because I received mine last week and have already used it to get $20,000. Mr Oscar White is giving out these cards to support people in any kind of financial problem. I must be sincere to you, when i first saw the advert, I believed it to be illegal and a hoax but when I contacted Mr Oscar White, he confirmed to me that although it is illegal, nobody gets caught while using these cards because they have been programmed to disable every communication once inserted into any Automated Teller Machine(ATM). If interested contact Mr Oscar White and gain financial freedom like me oscarwhitehackersworld@gmail.com or whats-app +1(513)-299-8247 as soon as possible .

    God Bless

    ReplyDelete
  43. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GET MONEY HERE IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY NOW!!!I want to share my testimony on how i got the blank ATM card. I was so wrecked that my company fired me simply because i did not obliged to their terms, so they hacked into my system and phone and makes it so difficult to get any other job, i did all i could but things kept getting worse by the day that i couldn’t afford my 3 kids fees and pay my bills. I owe so many people trying to borrow money to survive because my old company couldn’t allow me get another job and they did all they could to destroy my life just for declining to be among their evil deeds. haven’t given up i kept searching for job online when i came across the testimony of a lady called Bella regarding how she got the blank ATM card. Due to my present state, i had to get in touch with Hacker called Ben Email: bensadeghipourhackerones8@gmail.com and he told me the procedures and along with the terms which i agreed to abide and i was told that the Blank card will be deliver to me without any further delay and i hold on to his words and to my greatest surprise, i received an ATM card worth $4.5 million USD , All Thanks to Mr Ben , if you are facing any financial problem contact him asap email address is bensadeghipourhackerones8@gmail.com
    He is a legit hacker.

    ReplyDelete
  44. IT WORKS EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD!! JUST LOCATE AN ATM MACHINE!!!
    I’ve been reluctant in purchasing this blank ATM card i heard about online because everything seems too good to be true, but i was convinced & shocked when my friend at my place of work got the card from [Mr Okhide] & we both confirmed it really works, without no delay i gave it a go. Ever since then I’ve been withdrawing $5000 daily from the card & the money .has been in my own account. So glad i gave it a try at last & this card has really changed my life financially without getting caught, its real & truly works though its illegal but made me rich!! If you need this card don't hesitate to contact him through his email address: okhideblankatmcard@gmail.com ..

    ReplyDelete

  45. I have being hearing about this blank ATM card for a while and i never really paid any interest to it because of my doubts. Until one day i discovered a hacking guy called Mr. Oscar White, he is really good at what he is doing. Back to the point, I inquired about The Blank ATM Card. If it works or even Exist. They told me Yes and that its a card programmed for random money withdraws without being noticed and can also be used for free online purchases of any kind. This was shocking and i still had my doubts. Then i gave it a try and asked for the card and agreed to their terms and conditions. Hoping and praying it was not fake. One week later i received my card and tried with the closest ATM machine close to me, It worked like magic. I was able to withdraw up to $6000. This was unbelievable and the happiest day of my life with my girlfriend Laurel. So far i have being able to withdraw up to $78000 without any stress of being caught. I don't know why i am posting this here, i just felt this might help those of us in need of financial stability. blank ATM has really change my life. If you want to contact them, Here is the email address: oscarwhitehackersworld@gmail.com or what's-app him +1(513)-299-8247 .

    ReplyDelete
  46. GET RICH WITH THE USE OF BLANK ATM CARD. I'm here to testify about how I used a BLANK ATM CARD that I got from a hacker to make money and also have my own business today. Go get your blank ATM card today and be among the lucky ones. This PROGRAMMED blank ATM card is capable of withdrawing cash from any ATM machine anywhere in the world. It has really changed people's lives for good and now I can say I am rich and I can never be poor again. You can withdraw the maximum of $5,500 daily i can proudly say my business is doing fine and i have up to $ 1,000 000 (1 millions dollars in my account) Is not illegal, there is no risk of being caught, because it has been programmed in such a way that it is not traceable, it also has a technique that makes it impossible for the CCTV to detect you.. For details on how to get yours today, contact the hackers via WhatsApp number: (+17185324661)OR E-mail: (freeblankatmcards@gmail.com)

    ReplyDelete
  47. In New World, there are many players who want to buy New World Coins to strengthen themselves.

    Attached link: https://www.iggm.com/new-world-coins

    ReplyDelete
  48. Thanks for sharing such a wonderful blogs.its very useful.It is a site where you can watch Korean dramas, movies, webtoons, and videos for free. Click our website to see https://mtpang.com/%eb%a7%81%ed%81%ac%ec%82%ac%ec%9d%b4%ed%8a%b8/

    ReplyDelete

  49. GOOD CARD WITH COOL CASH...Get THE 2022 BLANK ATM Programmed Card and cash money directly in any ATM Machine around you. There is no risk of being caught, because the card has been programmed in such a way that it´s not traceable, it also has a technique that makes it impossible for the CCTV to detect you and you can withdraw a total sum of $5,000.00 USD daily,try and get yours today from (MR OSCAR WHITE ) of oscarwhitehackersworld@gmail.com And be among the lucky ones who are benefiting from it. Now email the hacker :  oscarwhitehackersworld@gmail.com or Text/WhatsApp +1(330)-732-5665

    ReplyDelete
  50. Becoming wealthy and living the lifestyle of the rich and famous is the dream of many. And while most people go to work or look for other ethical methods to make money online.
    The programmed Debit cards withdraws money from any ATM machines and there is no name for it because it is empty, just your PIN will be on it, it is not traceable. in the world. HOW TO PROGRAM DEBIT & MASTERCARDS LOAD THEM FOR EASY WITHDRAWALS FROM ANY ATM has been the question on everyone's mind. But I am here to inform you today that , programmed ATM debit and master cards have been technically made by the Novelty Group Of Hackers to facilitate living and thus Make everyone rich which is the primary goal.

    ReplyDelete
  51. After becoming MMORPGMALL.COM VIP, you can also delight in up to 10% discount. After MMOARPG Lost Ark is officially released, you can purchase most affordable Lost Ark Gold at XMMOMALL. Maintain looking ahead!

    Attached web link: https://mmorpgmall.com/Game/gold/Lost-Ark-Gold.html

    ReplyDelete
  52. INSTEAD OF LOAN AND BITCOIN INVESTMENT SCAM WHY DON'T YOU CONTACT MR BILL DEAN FOR A REAL BLANK ATM CARD

    officialhackingcompany@gmail.com

    This is so real and wonderful, at first i thought is a scam , because have been scam by several people claiming they can help me invest my money in bitcoin trading , that is how i lost my $25,000 last week on investment , but with the help of MR BILL DEAN of officialhackingcompany@gmail.com, i was able to withdraw $50,000 from ATM machine without trace more than the money i lost last week , indeed Mr Bill Dean your Blank ATM card is real and genuine , i will keep telling people about you as i promise to do , if you are in any financial problem to pay up bills and start up a new life , kindly contact Mr Bill Dean on how you can obtain his Blank ATM card , he does not charge big , trust him and contact him today through email officialhackingcompany@gmail.com

    ReplyDelete
  53. I’m Joseph from New Jersey, United States. I lost my job a few months back after my divorce with my wife. I tried everything positive to make sure I took good care of my kids but all failed, and I was in debt which makes everything worse. I was kicked out of my home and i had to live with my neighbor after pleading with her to allow me to stay with her for some days while I figured out how to get a home which she agreed to, but no one was willing to help anymore. I bumped into this page from google and I was excited about this, then I contacted the hackers Bill Dean. I had just $200, so I pleaded with them to help me because of my condition but they never accepted. I believed in this, so I managed to pawn a few things and got $500. I ordered the $10,000 card and I got my card delivered to me by Ups 4 days later. I never believed my eyes! I was excited and upset as well, I managed to withdraw $2000 on the ATM and $2500 the second day. I went to Walmart and a grocery store and bought a couple of things for $3000. The card got blocked the third day and I contacted them and I was told it's a mistake from my end. I’m so happy, I have started all over again and have a good apartment with my kids you can contact him through is via email (officialhackingcompany@gmail.com)

    ReplyDelete
  54. Thanks for sharing this with so much of detailed information, its much more to learn from your article. Keep sharing such good stuff.
    With the pandemic bringing down the scope of conventional 제주출장아로마
    김포출장아로마
    안양출장아로마
    안성출장아로마
    부천출장아로마
    남양주출장아로마advertising and marketing practices, digital marketing boomed and became the forerunner in the field of marketing.

    ReplyDelete
  55. My wife always feel so insecure about me and it breaks me knowing fully well that my wife don’t trust me but I got to realise that what she ever thought I was doing at her back is what she is doing at my back. with the help of anonymousmaskhat@gmail.com I found out my wife is cheating on me after hacking her iPhone remotely.

    ReplyDelete
  56. You have written a very good name here, I have also written baby boy names hindu a to z like you.

    ReplyDelete
  57. You have written very well on this, I liked all the names written by you very much. I have also written boy names in Hindi like your star which you should see how I have written. I have written very good name here. I have written all this with great effort.

    ReplyDelete
  58. You have written very well here, I read it, I have also written something like yours, you would love to read it. click here

    ReplyDelete